tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post116438239696269219..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: Four little wordsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1164470895291839892006-11-25T11:08:00.000-05:002006-11-25T11:08:00.000-05:00And answered in an update to the post Olaf.And answered in an update to the post Olaf.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1164419220151468302006-11-24T20:47:00.000-05:002006-11-24T20:47:00.000-05:00Jeff,I had it on good currency (Don Newman's Polit...Jeff,<BR/><BR/>I had it on good currency (Don Newman's Politics/National Post), who both supposedly reproduced the resolutions, that the Bloc used Quebecers, and the government Quebecois. I figured that the media may fail to make the distinction in a news story, but not if they claim to be reproducing the resolutions.<BR/><BR/>I mean what the hell? And where did you find the original Bloc motion? And why the hell hasn't the government added their resolution, or even a press release or something with the official text of Harper's resolution, on their website?<BR/><BR/>As you can see from all my questions, you sure have a LOT to answer for here Jeff.Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12434267803807108634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1164414886622980842006-11-24T19:34:00.000-05:002006-11-24T19:34:00.000-05:00We could argue about this all day, but I'll just s...We could argue about this all day, but I'll just say one thing. You don't turn the shade of red Duceppe did when Harper announced his motion if you think things are working out as planned. You turn that shade of red when you're having heart problems.<BR/><BR/>Duceppe got cleaned. Libs got saved. Stop Iggy before he "leads" again.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1164412457935641292006-11-24T18:54:00.000-05:002006-11-24T18:54:00.000-05:00Westmount, time will tell. Long run here, I feel n...Westmount, time will tell. Long run here, I feel nervous.<BR/><BR/>Olaf, I know where you're coming from. I know all about the sociological vs. civic thing. And about the media constantly getting it wrong. That's why I went back to read the original BQ motion en Francais, I think you should too:<BR/><BR/><I>Que cette Chambre reconnaisse que les Québécoises et les Québécois forment une nation.</I><BR/><BR/>The media have been getting this one wrong in English too. As you see, the BQ used Quebecois, just like Harper. English or French, Harper just tacked on the four little words. The original BQ motion WAS the sociological meaning, not the civic meaning.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1164407534937064432006-11-24T17:32:00.000-05:002006-11-24T17:32:00.000-05:00Jeff,I think you're wrong.The spin has been the Ha...Jeff,<BR/><BR/>I think you're wrong.<BR/><BR/><I>The spin has been the Harper motion was different because it referred to the sociological Quebecois whereas the BQ wanted nation recognition for the wider geographic region of Quebec.</I><BR/><BR/>Despite what the Globe says (who have failed to make the distinction from day one), from everything I've seen is that the Bloc said "Quebecers" where as the government resolution said "Quebecois"...<BR/><BR/>Did you ever wonder why the Bloc would used the anglicized term "Quebecers", while the Conservatives would use the term Quebecois?<BR/><BR/>Probably because the latter refers to the sociological/ethnic group, where as the former refers to the political/civic group. <BR/><BR/>I suppose I could go on a rant from here, but I'll spare you... this time.Olafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12434267803807108634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1164400765108950842006-11-24T15:39:00.000-05:002006-11-24T15:39:00.000-05:00JeffI'm of the opinion that the recognition of som...Jeff<BR/>I'm of the opinion that the recognition of something which is inherent in a people means nothing.<BR/><BR/>That said, the Bloc look really really stupid today in Quebec.<BR/><BR/>The media are attacking Boisclair for saying nothing for 24 hours and Duceppe for being outsmarted by the Federalists. There is no way the Bloc could have voted against the motion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com