tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post4275605081499966409..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: Rae ad a well-aimed Conservative grenade into the Liberal tentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-28663086397374957082012-03-23T00:19:07.974-04:002012-03-23T00:19:07.974-04:00They're attacking Rae because they know they w...They're attacking Rae because they know they will be running against him.<br /><br />They know something we don't know. There won't be time for Rae to be replaced before an election is called. They broke the fixed election law before, and they'll do it again. They claimed they were forced then because of the minority situation. This time they will say they were forced to resign due to the coming indictments.<br /><br />The Robocoup scandal is just getting started and they know it.liberal supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01129945625510633921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-82499173385986506282012-03-21T19:58:37.488-04:002012-03-21T19:58:37.488-04:00You raise a very good point - what are the Liberal...You raise a very good point - what are the Liberals going to give Canadians if elected. For the past 6 years, we've thought it was all about the leader, and while the leader is the face of the party, there's been very little substance.kacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00924493234007112816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-77025143258075718532012-03-20T21:30:22.341-04:002012-03-20T21:30:22.341-04:00@sharonapple88: Actually, such an ad would make me...<i>@sharonapple88: Actually, such an ad would make me think that it's the *Liberals* who must be desperate, if they're relying on the last name of the Youth and Amateur Sport critic. </i><br /><br />No doubt, it would be cheaper if Bob Rae made the official announcement.<br /><br />And I was partly kidding about Trudeau for the ad. What amused me about the idea was the attack ads that would result. Yes, an attack ad on a critic for the third party in the house. I suspect that the Conservatives would love to have an excuse to do this. They do take swings at him that border on the bizarre at times. Example, Del Mastro's questioning <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/justin-trudeau-fumes-at-tory-mps-bad-catholic-taunt/article2222944/" rel="nofollow">whether Trudeau is a good Catholic.</a> <br /><br /><i>Whether an ad is an attack ad or just a "hard hitting" ad depends on your point of view. I obviously don't share your "point of view".</i><br /><br />We both bring out personal biases towards this. <br /><br />According to Richard Gwyn, modern attack ads were imported from the US in the 1979 campaign, by the Conservatives, and by both parties in the 1980 campaign: "These were the sleaziest and nastiest in Canadian political history. The style was 'negative,' in the sense of bashing the opponent over the head with a club instead of promoting the candidate." <br /><br /><i>I haven't seen or heard Mr Harper say "fuddle duddle" to anybody, to their face or behind their back!</i><br /><br />Harper does have a reputation for <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/archives/who-is-stephen-harper/article809018/singlepage/#articlecontent" rel="nofollow">swearing and sulking</a> according to John Ibbitson. (The sulking bit is interesting, especially with the rumours of <a href="http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-09/politics/30071165_1_folha-canadian-embassy-bathroom" rel="nofollow">Harper having locked himself in a bathroom in Brazil.</a>)sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-55757270001867697692012-03-20T19:02:58.944-04:002012-03-20T19:02:58.944-04:00Why is it that Conservatives always seem to be liv...Why is it that Conservatives always seem to be living 30 or 40 years behind the rest f the world? <br /><br />Trudeau and Stanfield for crying out loud. <br /><br />Catch up !! The world has moved on.Carmichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12516990599047585574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-47160623568659927292012-03-20T18:49:36.660-04:002012-03-20T18:49:36.660-04:00Why respond at all? I don't want my money goin...Why respond at all? I don't want my money going towards any television or radio ads when an election is years away.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044756214758739534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-16672420018464987922012-03-20T16:17:37.902-04:002012-03-20T16:17:37.902-04:00It is hard for me to put 30 years of following pol...It is hard for me to put 30 years of following politics in Canada and the USA into a few lines but I can think of dozens of instances where the Liberals have unfairly characterized the Conservatives with ads in public and slander in the House of Commons. I just mentioned a few.<br /><br />Whether an ad is an attack ad or just a "hard hitting" ad depends on your point of view. I obviously don't share your "point of view".<br /><br />I haven't seen or heard Mr Harper say "fuddle duddle" to anybody, to their face or behind their back!clarkdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17867680338915446698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-45483688338067325292012-03-20T15:20:20.680-04:002012-03-20T15:20:20.680-04:00@sharonapple88: Actually, such an ad would make me...@sharonapple88: Actually, such an ad would make me think that it's the *Liberals* who must be desperate, if they're relying on the last name of the Youth and Amateur Sport critic. <br /><br />Rae has to repeat his promise not to run for permanent leader. If he does, that cuts the legs out from these ads altogether. If he doesn't, then he's as good as saying that he will run - another broken Liberal promise.Vancouveroishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612421378173745791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-52178651712339480042012-03-20T15:19:13.520-04:002012-03-20T15:19:13.520-04:00Liberals are the masters of character assassinatio...<i>Liberals are the masters of character assassination and distorted ads so if you get a little of your own medicine, it puts a smile on my face.</i><br /><br />Whoa, have you been away for the last few election cycles? The Conservatives have taken the torch in this regard. Dion. Ignatieff.<br /><br />I suppose the ad is doing what most attack ads are said to do -- make your base happy. <br /><br />As for Stanfield... modern day attack politics didn't come to Canada until the 1980 campaign (so says a book I have on political campaigns from 1972-2004), which was when Stanfield was out of politics.sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-74080017860386265502012-03-20T14:54:46.640-04:002012-03-20T14:54:46.640-04:00Very good suggestions and as a Conserative, I hope...Very good suggestions and as a Conserative, I hope your party doesn't do what you argue for.<br /><br />I would just like to remind everyone, it was the Liberals that made a good man like Mr Stanfield into a laughing stock (when I was just a kid) and many have said he was the best Prime Minister that never was.<br /><br />Does everyone forget the ads that Martin ran that said the Conservatives would have soldiers on our streets and the continual slander that Conservative policy is dictated by the US? Liberals are the masters of character assassination and distorted ads so if you get a little of your own medicine, it puts a smile on my face.clarkdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17867680338915446698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-11667698721318498262012-03-20T13:34:32.936-04:002012-03-20T13:34:32.936-04:00For a positive ad -- how about continuing with the...For a positive ad -- how about continuing with the "We're listening" theme and make Trudeau the face of the ad. We'll know how desperate the Conservatives are if they create attack ads for the Youth and Amateur Sport critic. ;)sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-5232041510610516632012-03-20T12:46:05.506-04:002012-03-20T12:46:05.506-04:00Very good points...Very good points...Shawn in Montrealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04886547041479971036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-85575940424255300532012-03-20T10:57:06.096-04:002012-03-20T10:57:06.096-04:00Good comment.
As always.Good comment.<br /><br />As always.Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05210281918327513550noreply@blogger.com