tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post4473437190907079566..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: Harper’s “help" for women: no abortions, no contraceptives?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-16962645807961274632010-03-26T12:20:45.593-04:002010-03-26T12:20:45.593-04:00Well I like your post as well as the encouragement...Well I like your post as well as the encouragement towards the woman, no abortions no contraceptives, the one thing comes in my mind is permanent contraception, tubal reversal is a procedure by which woman has a chance to pregnant again. http://www.mybabydoc.com is all about this. Thanks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275616463362995121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-35551448065241084352010-02-12T10:31:30.065-05:002010-02-12T10:31:30.065-05:00CK (continued) - I have to respectfully disagree r...CK (continued) - I have to respectfully disagree regarding Harper getting a free ride from the media. I think that he receives the same amount of criticism/scrutiny that previous PM's have. I can tell you that there is a definite feeling on the right, though, that Harper is generally treated unfairly in the media (I don't agree, but I think that demonstrates how much/little bias you see in the media is coloured by your own biases).<br /><br />Obviously, the job of the Leader of Her Majesty's Official Opposition is to "oppose", however there are times when partisanship becomes entirely self-serving.<br /><br />Holding Harper to account is one thing, trying to derail a program that will benefit some of our world's most desperate people is something entirely different.<br /><br />Let's be proud that Canada is taking a leadership role in improving the health of women and children rather than making this yet another partisan poo-flinging fight.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05153762451335405866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-50876863465520748042010-02-12T07:30:58.663-05:002010-02-12T07:30:58.663-05:00Hi, CK.
Sadly, you're right - many children i...Hi, CK.<br /><br />Sadly, you're right - many children in Africa do die before the age of five, but not most as your earlier post stated. The infant mortality rate in Africa is around 1/6. I think that we can both agree, though, that it is disturbingly high and intolerable in a world that has such great wealth as ours.<br /><br />I completely agree with you that access to contraception (especially) and abortion (not as much) would improve the lives of women in these countries and I support funding such initiatives. That said, on the list of critical items that will have the most impact of the lives of women an children in the developing world, both items rank well down the list. Many of these countries lack even the most basic sterile medical facilities!<br /><br />At the end of the day, if a Canadian leader (of any party) is going to make the health of these women and children a top priority for the G8, I am for it.<br /><br />(I'll try to respond to the rest of your post later).Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05153762451335405866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-45291982797810818242010-02-11T20:41:21.458-05:002010-02-11T20:41:21.458-05:00blur007: many children do die before age 5 in plac...blur007: many children do die before age 5 in places like Africa; that comes from such organizations as UNICEF and PLAN.<br /><br />Again, the idea of implementing abortion or something even most basic like birth control would be of utmost help. All about having choices; a way out. No one is suggesting to subject forced abortions. <br /><br />And what is so wrong with birth control? <br /><br />And another thing, I am no fan of Iggy's, but why is that Stevie gets pretty much a free ride; he can score all the cheap political points he likes (ie anti-semite attack flyers on Liberals): All his attack ads are even applauded. But Iggy so much as behaves like an opposition leader who expresses disagreement with St-Stevie, he is merely scoring cheap points? Explain this double standard, please? <br /><br />I too think there was more to this: his own liberal ministers even clammed up fairly quick. <br /><br />I would go so far as to say Iggy is trying to bring out the Reform and NCC ultra-right Stevie to the forefront.CKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10762523064802036223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-50781856586339478392010-02-11T16:35:16.989-05:002010-02-11T16:35:16.989-05:00CK - Don't let the facts get in the way of you...CK - Don't let the facts get in the way of your ideology!<br /><br />The child mortality rate in sub-Saharan Africa is roughly 166 per 1000 live births. Atrocious, yes, but not even close to your ridiculous statement that "most children in Africa die by the age of 5".<br /><br />If access to contraception and abortion are, as you argue, the preeminent solution to this awful problem, then how can you explain the vast discrepancy in childhood mortality rates between South America and Africa?<br /><br />Clean drinking water, adequate food, sterile medical supplies, access to trained medical professionals - all of these can have a profound and immediate impact on the lives of women and children in the developing world, yet a good initiative is put at risk so that Ignatieff can score cheap political points at home.<br /><br />That's shameful, and I say that as someone who is pro-choice.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05153762451335405866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-33723020985725253132010-02-11T02:41:35.748-05:002010-02-11T02:41:35.748-05:00The women of Ireland go to England to have abortio...The women of Ireland go to England to have abortions.<br /><br />Harper's ideology is mainly from outside our country and we need to nip it in the bud ASAP. It's religulous. If he continues on this path, he should allow a lot more immigration to our country, because he's hastening the overpopulation of poorer countries.<br /><br />Al Franken gave a <a href="http://blog.alfranken.com/2010/02/04/daily-planet-blog-him-al-franken/" rel="nofollow">great speech</a> on choice recently.lyricalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02405152724476514152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-44062405042853175642010-02-11T00:39:13.014-05:002010-02-11T00:39:13.014-05:00Ignatieff: paying to abort third-world babies is m...Ignatieff: paying to abort third-world babies is my new hill to die on.<br /><br />Harper: checkmate. again. dumbass.<br /><br />Sheesh, Iggy is worse than Dion!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-70840268729340967252010-02-10T22:10:03.515-05:002010-02-10T22:10:03.515-05:00Liberal litmus test on foreign aid, must include a...Liberal litmus test on foreign aid, must include abortion.<br /><br />First the western elites took away the DDT, millions died from Malaria.<br /><br />Now the want to eradicate the third world by aborting them. Planned Parent founder Margaret Sanger would be proud.<br />Maybe the third world want to live.<br />http://www.dianedew.com/black.htm<br /><br />Show some decency, focus on nutrition, food, immunization etc.Rotterdamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06014089653357959792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-71635150327918449922010-02-10T19:15:46.629-05:002010-02-10T19:15:46.629-05:00"Ireland and Poland are areas where abortion ..."Ireland and Poland are areas where abortion is illegal but maternal mortality rates are low. We got that in the bag without abortion.<br /><br />And by the way, I'm sure countries who recognize the right to life of unborn children will love having Canada telling them they need to killing their unborn children to save the mothers. Colonialism anyone?"<br /><br />Really rich, Suzy. <br />How do you know places like Ireland and Poland aren't giving themselves very rudimentary abortions done in clandestine dark spooky places or using the ol' wire hanger? <br /><br />Suzy, once again off the mark. Iggy (or Most of Canada) isn't telling them they have to have abortions if they become covered. They're offering safe abortions as a choice for those who want them. <br /><br />And not even subsidizing birth control? Hell, there are Christian relief groups furnishing birth control. <br /><br />Most children in Africa die by the age of 5, usually from starvation, preventable diseases, and squalid living conditions. Where is your outrage for those poor souls? <br /><br />Oops! I forgot, for prolifers, life stops at Birth. <br /><br />As you wereCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10762523064802036223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-88391955062119564162010-02-10T19:04:10.296-05:002010-02-10T19:04:10.296-05:00'Pushing' abortion. Right.
More idiotic R...'Pushing' abortion. Right.<br /><br />More idiotic ReformaTory talking points.<br /><br />As Jeff says, Canadian foreign policy used to be guided by experts and by people on the ground, not by Christofascists like REAL Women and SUZY ALL-CAPS.<br /><br />Women die from unsafe abortions. How is trying to address that not part of maternal health?<br /><br />And the women who die often have other children who are put at extreme risk with the death of their mother. How is trying to address that not part of children's health?<br /><br />Harper is a complete hypocrite. Taking on the mantle of 'Motherhood Steve' while trying not to alienate the fetus fetishists.<br /><br />Well, it is just not gonna fly.fern hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05459318831672106272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-53446811706099795622010-02-10T18:33:48.536-05:002010-02-10T18:33:48.536-05:00I love how Conservative apologists just LAP up Har...I love how Conservative apologists just LAP up Harper's political manipulation as sincere.<br /><br />My challenge to find ONE sentence in Harper's past where he championed these SUDDENLY vital issues is still on the table. Takers, apologists, koolaid drinkers, anyone?<br /><br />Mindless sheep.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-11492565813554053402010-02-10T17:45:44.381-05:002010-02-10T17:45:44.381-05:00As if pushing abortion in the third world isn'...As if pushing abortion in the third world isn't ideological.<br /><br />Helping women deliver children safely and giving them access to vaccinations and clean water is the way to go.<br /><br />Ireland and Poland are areas where abortion is illegal but maternal mortality rates are low. We got that in the bag without abortion.<br /><br />And by the way, I'm sure countries who recognize the right to life of unborn children will love having Canada telling them they need to killing their unborn children to save the mothers. Colonialism anyone?Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15038275826830875246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-78038801401461463152010-02-10T17:38:50.841-05:002010-02-10T17:38:50.841-05:00Abortion is Canada's shame. It's a violati...Abortion is Canada's shame. It's a violation of the most fundamental human right, the destruction of innocent life where it should be safest. <br /><br />Pro-choice advocates are forced to hide behind vacuous slogans like "right to choose" and "reproductive rights" because they know their argument has no moral force. There is no justification for taking innocent human life.<br /><br />Here's a link to Michael Coren's recent talk at Queen's University entitled "Abortion: Canada's National Shame"<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnwtCJPvGRY<br /><br />Those who ignore this grave and ongoing violation of human rights need to wake up and fight it. It's particularly shameful that anyone should see fit to export abortion to foreign countries, or present it as a matter of "health".Dauphinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13393261656998968574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-53509802366926668552010-02-10T17:20:30.927-05:002010-02-10T17:20:30.927-05:00Interesting use of facts. How many women and child...Interesting use of facts. How many women and children die of malaria, and the decision to stop the use of DDT by "democratic" or "left wing" governments?<br /><br />G.W.B. did a great deal to help Africa and population control was not on his list of priorities.<br /><br />Are you suggesting the wealth goverments are responsible for millions of deaths as a result of malaria not being addressed with a DDT alternative?<br /><br />It is my understanding the priorities have shifted to cover basic needs like access to clean drinking water, food and shelter.<br /><br />I am not sure if the Liberals want to go to the Polls with a government funding requirement for Pro-Abortion position in the third world.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-2720110851747030372010-02-10T17:18:06.794-05:002010-02-10T17:18:06.794-05:00*Yaaaawn*
Got anything interesting or worthwhile ...*Yaaaawn*<br /><br />Got anything interesting or worthwhile to write about?DavidAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01300436156839339184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-26485697260433948022010-02-10T17:02:19.705-05:002010-02-10T17:02:19.705-05:00Well, there is it, out in the open. He says nothi...Well, there is it, out in the open. He says nothing about it for 4 years, and then, when he really needs to rally his troops, he uses the abortion issue to claw his way back into the good books of the alliance church.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695402060544070706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-87211503043495700712010-02-10T16:57:22.968-05:002010-02-10T16:57:22.968-05:00Great post. Back from vacation in Paris, and just...Great post. Back from vacation in Paris, and just catching up on local politics. We can learn a few things from the French...WesternGrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658358114507615351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-14780859569208519522010-02-10T16:08:01.975-05:002010-02-10T16:08:01.975-05:00Thanks for this, Jeff.
Big surprise, eh?
Off t...Thanks for this, Jeff. <br /><br />Big surprise, eh? <br /><br />Off to blog.fern hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05459318831672106272noreply@blogger.com