tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post2187989581436251815..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: With no plan, it's better the devil you knowUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-23133467194641524982009-10-08T21:15:57.980-04:002009-10-08T21:15:57.980-04:00I second McLea's comment. Good on you for tell...I second McLea's comment. Good on you for telling it like it is. Keep up the good grassroots work.<br /><br />Unlike McLea, I won't be listening to you on the radio tonight (nothing personal, I swear!) but good luck on the air nonetheless.Mike514https://www.blogger.com/profile/18375380983427133078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-40470619863646895002009-10-08T18:48:19.492-04:002009-10-08T18:48:19.492-04:00Impressive post Jedras. Nice to see that behind th...Impressive post Jedras. Nice to see that behind the partisan hack facade, you actually have some stones. Look forward to listening to you on the radio tonight.McLeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09165834242136713347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-41150793231220943702009-10-08T18:19:27.132-04:002009-10-08T18:19:27.132-04:00Steve V.
Dude your guy has NO clothes on! He is p...Steve V.<br /><br />Dude your guy has NO clothes on! He is polling horribly with EVERY demographic in EVERY region.<br /><br />Correction: he leads the demographic that don't show up (under 25)<br /><br />Narnia Ads?<br /><br />Fire EVERYONE!!!<br />including yourself first!<br /><br />Iffy has an impressive "resume" we can parade him around and voters will fall in love again with Liberals?<br /><br />Are you working for CPC party Steve V. as a double agent?<br /><br />You can't make this stuff up!CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-63893018795131389952009-10-08T17:00:35.190-04:002009-10-08T17:00:35.190-04:00Can I assume this is one of the polls you are talk...Can I assume this is one of the polls you are talking about??<br /><br />Ekos released today (+/- 1.8%)<br />Conservatives - 39.7%<br />Liberals - 25.7%<br />New Democrats - 15.2%<br />Bloc Quebecois - 9.7%<br />Greens - 9.7%<br /><br /><br />Metropolitan cities:<br /><br />Vancouver (MoE 10.22)<br />Conservatives: 44.9 (+2.7)<br />Liberals: 25.8 (-0.7)<br />NDP: 18.2 (-2.5)<br />Green: 11.1 (-1.4)<br /><br />Toronto (MoE 5.59)<br />Conservatives: 44.8 (+5.7)<br />Liberals: 35.6 (-7.7)<br />NDP: 10.3 (-0.9)<br />Green: 9.4 (+2.0)<br /><br />Montreal (MoE 5.35)<br />Bloc Quebecois: 37.2 (+2.7)<br />Conservatives: 19.8 (+5.6)<br />Liberals: 24.4 (-7.3)<br />NDP: 8.5 (+1.2)<br />Green: 10.2 (-2.1)<br /><br />With a few results like this the liberals might be begging Dion to come back.<br />-----------------------<br /><br />I am glad that at least some liberals are wising up to "I'm not Harper" not being a central strategy. A plan is needed, and I hope that the liberals can come up with a good one. One that even if it doesn't put the liberals in power, it will atleast push the Tories on doing the right things for Canadians.Barcshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00797062032956713967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-17752328411898977182009-10-08T16:15:58.412-04:002009-10-08T16:15:58.412-04:00"Our strategy seems to be say nothing, commit..."Our strategy seems to be say nothing, commit to nothing, just attack Harper and wait for him to fall on his face."<br /><br />That was actually a very credible strategy in the spring, because the daily deluge of bad economic data meant that we could be benefit from the traditional incumbent damage. It was fairly shrewd to simply stay out of the way and watch our opponent chafe. Problem is, nobody seems to realize that those days are long past, there is a new sense in the land and it means we must TAKE voters, not wait for them to look for a safe haven. All I ask is for a little AGILITY here, because it was obvious to me in June, after we took a pass, that we needed a serious rethink on strategy. We can't rely on external events to benefit us, we need to seize the agenda. The only way one does this is to capture people's imagination, and that necessitates some level of risk.<br /><br />If you drill down to the central problem, it will always be this, which you articulate- Canadians can't differentiate where the Liberals stand, we have a IDENTITY crisis. If you accept this most obvious of premise, then the solution is equally obvious. You NEED to give the party form, and this is only achieved with policy that rebrands. Simply focusing on scandals and opponent missteps is only a piece of the puzzle, you need to ATTRACT, rather than putting your chips on REPEL. Harper has made it through the worst, there is no kick the bums scenario available, so let's DARE or we're done. It's that simple and anybody who doesn't realize this, is engaged in wishful thinking. Not panic, but sober assessment.<br /><br />We have an internationally respected intellectual, surrounded by equally able people. Let them roam.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-76588432148384908762009-10-08T16:15:35.450-04:002009-10-08T16:15:35.450-04:00They have to name three things Harper is weak on, ...They have to name three things Harper is weak on, and hammer, hammer, hammer with themes to match.<br /><br />And play the long game with it too. We know that Harper is eventually going to get killed by an internal scandal unsuccessfully buried by his penchant to restrict and control information, so his autocratic hand has to be one of themes. It is simultaneously his best sword and Achilles heel.<br /><br />Not that I'm advocating waiting for a scandal as a strategy.<br /><br />Not that I'm routing for this batch of Liberals to get in either.Mark Richard Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16331995640397477486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-79389411584116380582009-10-08T15:12:34.222-04:002009-10-08T15:12:34.222-04:00If you say so Jeff.
I think the deficit is a los...If you say so Jeff. <br /><br />I think the deficit is a loser issue so long as the Tories refuse to acknowledge that tax hikes and/or spending cuts will be required. So long as they do that they're offering people the easy way out and people love to take the easy way out even if deep down they know it's too good to be true. How else to explain the continued profitabiity of the lottery.<br /><br />I'd rather the Liberals just define themselves by loudly jumping on tory mistakes, picking a few key easily understood issues and pushing them in the House by making them the focus of QP, offering amendments to make tory bills their own bills, private member bills, voting against the tory plans. That strikes me as emminantly more practicle then trying for some grandiose "national conversation" thing.<br /><br />Oh and I want to start fighting fire with fire. If Stevey Firewalls is going to launch negative political ads at M.I. I'd like to see him face the same. Less Narnia more Napalm.JFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309878838282988615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-27257096481891130022009-10-08T14:01:22.235-04:002009-10-08T14:01:22.235-04:00First off, you have to realize that the LPC is you...First off, you have to realize that the LPC is you, not the OLO.<br /><br />Getting back into government asap was a grassroots demand.<br />Your gang has some serious 'adult thinking' to do about the coalition fast track into government, and what it would do to the party and Canada.<br /><br />Waiting for 'them' to come up with policy,<br />waiting for 'them' to make decisions.<br /><br />What's stopping the grassroots from demanding an actual, real, grassroots participation, policy convention?<br />And don't hide behind the Liberal constitution.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-31950547767371044472009-10-08T13:38:11.251-04:002009-10-08T13:38:11.251-04:00If fortune favored the daring Stephane Dion would ...<i>If fortune favored the daring Stephane Dion would be PM right now</i><br /><br />It's not that simplistic. Yes, fortune favours the daring, but in this context you also need to be able to sell it. And I love him, but Stephane couldn't. That's why it failed.<br /><br />With high risk there can be high reward, but there's also high risk of failure. Adult conversations are risky. You need to make your case persuasively, counter the smears of your opponents, and win the argument.<br /><br />But the fact is, if you want to win, you need to get in the game. Stay on the sidelines and your jersey won't get dirty. But you won't win the cup either.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-86274121833589277292009-10-08T13:31:59.397-04:002009-10-08T13:31:59.397-04:00If fortune favored the daring Stephane Dion would ...If fortune favored the daring Stephane Dion would be PM right now, was anything any other party proposed last election as daring as the Green Shift? I say no and we still got clobbered. <br /><br />It's nice to say that the adult conversation would have worked but it wouldn't have... all that would have happened would be that the CPC would cut and air scathing attack ads about how the LPC was going to tax you into poverty and Jack Layton's magical mustache would schreik that the LPC would slash beloved social programs into nothingness. The media would give the LPC about 5 seconds of positive coverage for honesty and then ape the other parties talking points. <br /><br />That being said the LPC does need to better articulate what they would do differently, now that they've shaken off the role of government "prop-up" they can do that much more effectively. Sure the polls aren't good at right this moment... let's give the LPC a little time to now actually be an opposition party before doomsaying.JFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10309878838282988615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-54340812306629520032009-10-08T13:00:57.628-04:002009-10-08T13:00:57.628-04:00Will they stop chasing silly stories and creating ...Will they stop chasing silly stories and creating divisions within Canada?<br /><br />Bodybags, wafers, unsexy comments.<br /><br />Give VOTERS a reason to VOTE for the Liberal party again.<br /><br />Many of us voted for the Red Book Promises. Some voted against the BM scandals they went to NDP/ Reform out west.<br /><br />Provide a list of detailed policies that are different and introduce and "sell them" in the HOC and across Canada.<br /><br />Leave the strictly negative narrative, it is NOT working.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.com