tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post2887124982471850663..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: A trip down Hercules procurement memory laneUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-66497194616433497562008-01-22T18:30:00.000-05:002008-01-22T18:30:00.000-05:00As did the Libs on GST :-) I think you get it, Luk...As did the Libs on GST :-) I think you get it, Luke, I think you get it.The Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762317244980526077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-88991758932032766352008-01-22T15:23:00.000-05:002008-01-22T15:23:00.000-05:00Let me see if I have this straight. When a party i...Let me see if I have this straight. When a party is in the opposition they can promise the moon and criticize. If they get elected they don’t need to keep those promises because they were in the opposition. I get it the Cons had their fingers crossed. The Cons promised not to tax income trusts, to be more accountable, and to be more open than the Libs. Oh wait they said those things when they were the opposition. Wink WinkUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02191245247019532196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-61174755574448548172008-01-21T12:28:00.000-05:002008-01-21T12:28:00.000-05:00Oh now Jeff, you once again show your ignorance of...Oh now Jeff, you once again show your ignorance of opposition. It isn't that you believe yourself to be right that makes opposition important, it's that you point out the flaws, and make it difficult enough that compromises are made, or the government makes thorough explanatory arguments. If it comes to a vote in a majority Parliament you can even vote against it. A classic example of that non-belief is the vehement opposition you Libs put forward on the GST, you voted against it, and you even campaigned against it. Then, in government, you just accepted it as good policy (*the only reason you got whacked on it was that you did campaign against it). <BR/><BR/>You don't have to believe your own press, again, given the Libs' vote for over-ruling Keen and re-opening Chalk river, you just have to work against the government for accountability's sake.The Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762317244980526077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-52308200189154849852008-01-20T21:45:00.000-05:002008-01-20T21:45:00.000-05:00You might have been able to win me over with the t...You might have been able to win me over with the truthiness of your argument rat.<BR/><BR/>However, as I support the opposition and you support the government, as I understand it my job is to oppose whatever you say, no matter what I believe myself to be right.<BR/><BR/>So, sorry about that.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-48340752325869573982008-01-20T12:56:00.000-05:002008-01-20T12:56:00.000-05:00I know that you Libs have difficulty understanding...I know that you Libs have difficulty understanding "opposition", as seen by your recent spate of abstentions, but yeah, that's basically the gist of the argument. Although stating that the Conservatives "killed" the deal is a little much, after all weren't you guys in government then? It's almost as bad as Dion blaming the Conservatives/Reform for keeping him from implementing Kyoto. You see, Jeff, opposition opposes and the Government is supposed to argue in favour of. In the end there is a vote. Was there a vote on the Hercs? Or did the Libs just turn tail and run?<BR/><BR/>Just to give you a teeny tiny example of LEADERSHIP, do you recall a controversial vote in the commons that the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc all "opposed" and are even decrying to this day? One maybe regarding a certain nuclear reactor in Chalk River? It seems to me that despite "opposition" from all three opposing parties the Conservatives still called a vote and somehow won it. But you're right, I'm sure, there was just no way the Liberals could have possibly pushed ahead on the Hercs. It was just too hard and there were so many other priorities.The Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762317244980526077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-42367376491942477332008-01-19T20:23:00.000-05:002008-01-19T20:23:00.000-05:00Umm, so rat, you're saying even though the Cons th...Umm, so rat, you're saying even though the Cons thought these were the right planes, and that the military needed them, because they were in the opposition it was their job to kill the deal, and end up delaying the military from getting these planes?<BR/><BR/>Yeah, that's a pretty stupid argument, you should be embarrassed.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-30174329584251418032008-01-19T15:17:00.000-05:002008-01-19T15:17:00.000-05:00Umm, Jeff, that's what's known as "opposition", th...Umm, Jeff, that's what's known as "opposition", the job of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition. Their job is to "oppose", to bring up flaws, to point out errors, generally to be sure that the government, when it does something, does the right thing. I know this concept is apparently foreign to today's Liberals, but blaming the Conservatives for opposing the Liberals is a tad funny. Now, if the Hercs were so important, why didn't the Liberals buy them in 13 years of Majority rule? Oh yeah, because your own embarrassment is justified. The Liberals have a pathetic record on the military.The Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762317244980526077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-91515080618864704482008-01-18T23:24:00.000-05:002008-01-18T23:24:00.000-05:00Right you are, thanks Bailey.Right you are, thanks Bailey.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-76515737044116352552008-01-18T20:21:00.000-05:002008-01-18T20:21:00.000-05:00"Let them bid too; you can’t rig this process to f...<I>"Let them bid too; you can’t rig this process to favour Boeing."</I><BR/><BR/>I think you mean Lockhead, not Boeing.Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12423615329119443537noreply@blogger.com