tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post3878437720568680415..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: BC is hungry for an alternativeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-84551219226438868172010-04-20T00:05:51.316-04:002010-04-20T00:05:51.316-04:00Hey, I am a long time BC resident and given the ch...Hey, I am a long time BC resident and given the choices we have, I still intend to park my vote with the liberals. I have seen the corruption of the NDP, not ever seen a Conservative candidate I would vote for.<br /><br />I am asking questions of the liberals on the HST and why are we not getting more facts so we can decide for ourselves. As for the Media, they are no better provincially then federal. I do not watch CTV for obvious reasons.<br /><br />If anyone thinks the HST would not be implemented if the NDP were to win, Maybe I can sell you some ocean front property in the South Okanogan. I can't stand Carole James and I can't stand the big unions demanding more than this province can deliver. She is about as credible as the CARP party was and still is federaly.mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07878825121729826425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-32327681054647523902010-04-19T21:54:22.001-04:002010-04-19T21:54:22.001-04:00It's really a pity that political parties don&...It's really a pity that political parties don't believe in honest labels. <br /><br />Reform became Alliance then Canadian Reform Alliance Party (CRAP), then Democratic Reform Party (I'm getting mixed up now ...) <br /><br />then Conservative Party of Canada (CPC being the time-honoured, registered name of the Communist Party of Canada but hey, they lost the court challenge ... go figure!).<br /><br />The worst, I think, is when we know that BC Liberals aren't Liberals. <br /><br />Please keep this discussion going, Jeff. Perhaps we'll reach a concensus on a new party. I heard someone suggest "Dogwood Party". <br />.BC Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16597928683019021273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-5803437598789047162010-04-19T15:28:00.392-04:002010-04-19T15:28:00.392-04:00"Surely there is already a municipal preceden..."Surely there is already a municipal precedent, so call the new party: Vision BC."<br /><br />Vision Vancouver is made up of New Democrats and Greens. That's not too liberal, that's just left, even if they're the more moderate of the left in Vancouver.Kyle H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06049961780427560881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-43765694772313861472010-04-19T14:59:16.293-04:002010-04-19T14:59:16.293-04:00Surely there is already a municipal precedent, so ...Surely there is already a municipal precedent, so call the new party: Vision BC.Eugene Forsey Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538109652483033119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-29173591119099726122010-04-19T14:24:50.527-04:002010-04-19T14:24:50.527-04:00Before Campbell's second election victory, I s...Before Campbell's second election victory, I supported the Democratic Reform Party, which was formed by a group of disgruntled liberal voters who saw the Liberal Party of BC as another right wing conservative party which had usurped the Liberal name only. Mr. Merino, who led the DRP, was not allowed to speak at the Leaders Debate and was given short shrift by the media. I know that there was little chance of him winning but it is surely very difficult to establish a new party without ANY media coverage. Add to that a lack of funds and you get failure. What a shame that it is really money that talks. I would be the first to jump on the wagon if a truly Liberal Party were to be established under any name.Joanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03208766280876073657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-26346454887841617232010-04-19T13:57:51.782-04:002010-04-19T13:57:51.782-04:00I could see a splinter to the Right. I'm not ...I could see a splinter to the Right. I'm not really sure there *is* a middle ground in BC. This is speaking as one who grew up listening to a Sask NDPer arguing with his BC brethren *and* the BC Socreds (it was uh, vigorous debate) and that's where he retired, so the debate went on for many a summer.<br /><br />Given the number of billboards in the Interior extolling Right virtues and MPs and the American influence up through the dry side of Washington with its lil teabaggers and Christianists, I've noticed a growing frustration amid envy of the furore south of the 49th. Like Campbell isn't Right *enough*.<br /><br />All this while I listen to the progressive BC kinfolk muttering darkly about the sale of BC rail and waterways and what will it take to get people to stop voting Socred. They're not sure even the HST will do it. I have yet to hear any of them approve of the tax, simply because none of them see it as harmonizing anything but (depending on pov, large corporation or government) pockets.<br /><br />Stuck in one-party Alberta, it's all very interesting to me.Nileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096047389811381098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-68000275124889772092010-04-19T12:54:05.566-04:002010-04-19T12:54:05.566-04:00Very good post, Jeff.
I agree; BC does look like ...Very good post, Jeff.<br /><br />I agree; BC does look like its ready for a new alternative. The problem is, however, that any alternative will most likely be built out of existing organizations, which presents a problem.<br /><br />The most likely scenario is the one you mentioned; right-wingers within the BC Liberals moving to the BC Conservatives, while the social liberals remain within the BC Liberals. The SoCreds did it after their collapse, and history does repeat...<br /><br />But that means BC would need to sit through a term or two of NDP government, much like in the '90s after the SoCred collapse, before any centre-left party (assuming the BC Liberals go that route) could amass enough organization or support to win. Which isn't too bad of a trade-off to my Ontarian eyes, though I wasn't living under the Harcourt/Clark NDP either...Kyle H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06049961780427560881noreply@blogger.com