tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post4081121916777809461..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: Why Sheila Copps nearly made me scream at workUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-77549451592795008542011-12-15T17:46:16.972-05:002011-12-15T17:46:16.972-05:00Yes, he should run. Question is, do we (Liberals) ...Yes, he should run. Question is, do we (Liberals) want someone as our leader who will be 67 at the time of the next election, and who will have to step aside within 2 to 4 years after that election, only to do a leadership race all over again?! Me thinks not.kacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00924493234007112816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-9970296736188146232011-11-14T21:11:20.733-05:002011-11-14T21:11:20.733-05:00Fair enough.Fair enough.PDOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09224448978718686097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-44947579068412099512011-11-14T20:53:44.605-05:002011-11-14T20:53:44.605-05:00Peter,
We'll have to agree to disagree. I'...Peter,<br /><br />We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see that as having any kind of legal force and effect. And whether it's written or spoken is largely irrelevant -- a verbal contract can be just as binding, in theory. I'll leave it to the lawyers to legalize, but I still maintain we're not talking legal contracts or rules, we're talking a moral commitment he's free to break if he so chooses and the only consequences would be meted out by the membership, if they so desire.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-68892644464600194422011-11-14T20:44:31.887-05:002011-11-14T20:44:31.887-05:00"Mr. Rae is a member of the Liberal Party, an..."Mr. Rae is a member of the Liberal Party, and any member of the Liberal Party can seek the leadership if they gather the requisite signatures and pay whatever the entry fee will be. Even if the last executive had codified a "rule" preventing him, it wouldn't have to be changed because it would be constitutionally invalid. He has the right to run. All the executive could do is request he resign the interim leadership if he decides to run for the permanent job;"<br /><br />Jeff, consider this: people give up their constitutional rights all time in exchange for some benefit. In a plea bargain, for example, the defendant gives up his right to a trial in exchange for a lighter sentence. In a confidentiality agreement, an individual gives up their right to free speech in exchange for a job, usually. It happens every day, it's perfectly legal and it's what Bob Rae was asked to do. He agreed to forgo his right to run for the permanent leadership in exchange for being appointed interim leader. <br /><br /><b>Any candidate for Interim Leader acceptable to the National Board will</b> be bilingual and, prior to any appointee being proposed to the National Board, be expected to:<br /><br />1. demonstrate majority support of the Caucus including a majority of the Caucus from the House of Commons; and<br /><br />2. <b>agree to</b> <b>execute in writing a solemn undertaking</b> <b>that</b> he/she will agree to be bound by the Constitution and that;<br /><br />(a) <b>he/she will not seek the permanent leadership</b> of the Party as part of the next leadership selection process;<br /><br />That solemn undertaking, in writing, is a contract. It has real legal weight as the basis for a lawsuit. To remove the threat of a lawsuit, the executive would have to formally release him from any obligation stemming from that contract.<br /><br />Or we could agree to dis agree.<br /><br /><a href="http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01273/Statement_by_Liber_1273987a.pdf" rel="nofollow">PDF of Liberal Party statement</a>.PDOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09224448978718686097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-15896786984500398562011-11-14T18:34:11.156-05:002011-11-14T18:34:11.156-05:00Jason
"The former deputy prime minister said...Jason<br /><br />"The former deputy prime minister said she’s already spoken with Liberal leader Bob Rae about her possible candidacy"<br /><br />From the very first story indicating a potential run. <br /><br />http://www.thespec.com/localprofile/article/569720--copps-may-run-for-liberal-party-presidentSteve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-3060737791036084172011-11-14T17:40:25.160-05:002011-11-14T17:40:25.160-05:00I fear that you are burying the lead. Why is Shei...I fear that you are burying the lead. Why is Sheila Copps making these sorts of statements? Is she trying to get Bob Rae's support for her campaign? Is she participating in the sorts of problems that she pretends to be complaining of?Jason Cherniakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473304114206630747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-71128282049592713892011-11-14T16:46:03.799-05:002011-11-14T16:46:03.799-05:00Cops seems to meet so much of the criteria you lai...Cops seems to meet so much of the criteria you laid out for how you would vote for in the presidential election!Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547900136161596590noreply@blogger.com