tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post5098307542033408087..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: The storm before the typhoonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-81176833043848561782008-04-21T19:07:00.000-04:002008-04-21T19:07:00.000-04:00"But Harper's never done anything that a Republica..."But Harper's never done anything that a Republican hasn't done first, so here they are."<BR/><BR/>And, that explains the front anti-Kyoto group in Calgary, a third party that could advertise without the Cons being on the hook. That was invented by the Republicans.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-37586742867990708532008-04-21T17:53:00.000-04:002008-04-21T17:53:00.000-04:00Jeff - I am very much starting to believe the laws...<I>Jeff - I am very much starting to believe the lawsuit was initiated as a means to spin the inevitable investigation. As soon as the refunds were denied because of allegations of overspending, the CPC must have known an investigation would ensue.</I>Oh, absolutely. It's a play right out of the Republican playbook... you take something that should be a slam-dunk and turn it into "he said-she said". <BR/><BR/>Normally it's an effective little move, but the American system doesn't have anything like Elections Canada, so it's a poor choice here. But Harper's never done <I>anything</I> that a Republican hasn't done first, so here they are. <BR/><BR/>And yes, the aching desire for an election was probably due to all the scandals hitting the fan. I'm guessing Harper thought that a second election would have already taken place by now, and he would have secured that majority. If he gets a majority, this all goes away. But he <I>doesn't</I> have one, so now you get to enjoy the spectacle of Harper looking like a <A HREF="http://demosthenes.blogspot.com/2008/04/open-letter-to-liberal-party.html" REL="nofollow">big ol' cheater.</A>Demostheneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14552994996411944134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-19008311935490270672008-04-21T17:45:00.000-04:002008-04-21T17:45:00.000-04:00So I guess Retail Media won't be using the Conserv...So I guess Retail Media won't be using the Conservative Party as a client referral.Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12423615329119443537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-24604239524238161032008-04-21T16:25:00.000-04:002008-04-21T16:25:00.000-04:00"The damage, if any"Oh, you're a delusional HOOT!!..."The damage, if any"<BR/><BR/>Oh, you're a delusional HOOT!! For the record, I did laugh out loud.<BR/><BR/>Let's remember, it was wilson that argued Flaherty did no damage in Ontario :)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-66772630602034108462008-04-21T16:20:00.000-04:002008-04-21T16:20:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-64564662195201885562008-04-21T13:50:00.000-04:002008-04-21T13:50:00.000-04:00"If those 2 emails are the worst EC has, I can see..."If those 2 emails are the worst EC has, I can see why they wanted to dig for more, because they know they don't have enough 'evidence' to lay charges."<BR/><BR/>That is the point of getting the warrant Wilson. The emails provide reasonable grounds to believe there is evidence at CPC headquarters.<BR/><BR/>Whether that evidence exists is another matter.<BR/><BR/>Jeff - I am very much starting to believe the lawsuit was initiated as a means to spin the inevitable investigation. As soon as the refunds were denied because of allegations of overspending, the CPC must have known an investigation would ensue.<BR/><BR/>I am also starting to believe the reason the cons wanted an election so badly last year was because they knew at some point this was going to hit the fan, and they wanted the election to happen first.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-64412684065227548372008-04-21T13:29:00.000-04:002008-04-21T13:29:00.000-04:00'The secret meetings plant the seed that there is ...'The secret meetings plant the seed that there is something to hide.'<BR/><BR/>Steve, the meeting was with the media, hiding? no. <BR/>Spinning, yes.<BR/><BR/>There are so many pictures of Cons using the back exit, and repeats of Libs/media saying oooooh, 'what are they hiding', <BR/>what impact will another pic of the back end of a Cons and another ooooh have?wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-86259536911670054142008-04-21T13:20:00.000-04:002008-04-21T13:20:00.000-04:00Just depends what's in the warrant BCer.Roger Smit...Just depends what's in the warrant BCer.<BR/>Roger Smith at CTV just said that there wasn't much there. Maybe the CPC gave the 'select' media the most damaging info at the stupid secret meeting.<BR/>If those 2 emails are the worst EC has, I can see why they wanted to dig for more, because they know they don't have enough 'evidence' to lay charges. <BR/><BR/>I just don't think the CPC would 'knowingly' break the rules, while publishing a how-to memo, and drawing the attention of over spending by filing for rebates (not received).<BR/>But, what ever happens now, the damage, if any, is done. <BR/>And I suppose Libs can always point to this as an accomplishment.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-67936991704262392942008-04-21T13:11:00.000-04:002008-04-21T13:11:00.000-04:00The secret meetings plant the seed that there is s...The secret meetings plant the seed that there is something to hide. With that suspicion as backdrop, the actual thrust of the allegations look worse.<BR/><BR/>I thought these guys played chess, while we played checkers?Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-19070557025509098032008-04-21T12:51:00.000-04:002008-04-21T12:51:00.000-04:00Fair enough wilson, but I'd argue that's not at al...Fair enough wilson, but I'd argue that's not at all what the Conservatives did here. <BR/><BR/>The warrant was due to be released Monday, in one fell swoop, generating one pile-on of media coverage. In an attempt to pre-empt that and spin it positively, the CPC released a portion of the information a day early.<BR/><BR/>Either way, that was guaranteeing at least two, instead of one, days of media coverage. Day one, CPC media spin gone wrong. Day two, salacious warrant details.<BR/><BR/>Without the CPC secret meetings would the media have covered the warrant release more slowly? Maybe, but I don't think so. It was a big story, guaranteed to get big coverage anyways. Now the coverage will be even bigger, thanks in part to the increased focus caused by the events of Sunday.<BR/><BR/>If the strategy was to dampen-down the story, I'd argue the opposite has occurred.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-11141339466013754802008-04-21T12:03:00.000-04:002008-04-21T12:03:00.000-04:00''Most media outlets, undoubtedly miffed from the ...''Most media outlets, undoubtedly miffed from the CPC “select media” list, will be on the story, and all its salacious details, with a vengeance.''<BR/><BR/>Better to get it all out at once, than for the media to drag it out over a week, dribbling the info.<BR/><BR/>So if the stupid secret meeting spurs on the media to really go at it, maybe that's the best approach. Get a media pile on, rather than the torture of drip drip drip.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.com