tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post5503615076497043857..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: WWJDUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-72957945746671386052007-09-29T01:23:00.000-04:002007-09-29T01:23:00.000-04:00From what I recall of what people were saying abou...From what I recall of what people were saying about the convention, the Quebec wing didn't want him in the first place. They wanted (and I hate to beat on a well-tenderized horse here) Ignatieff, didn't they?<BR/><BR/>And yes, I agree with those who say that serious questions need to be asked. Not just about Carroll, who said something dumb with the expectation of privacy... but about those who continually and habitually violate that expectation. The most interesting and important revelation in Wells' book is just how horrifically damaging leakers are in the Liberal party.<BR/><BR/>I'd think the first job would be to deal with that. <BR/><BR/>(It's certainly not turfing the leader. Considering Harper was in worse straits at one point, and is now PM--despite a personality far more grating than even the most extreme right-wing fantasy about Dion--one would think the Liberals would be shooting for some stability.)Demostheneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14552994996411944134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-72067618017190070322007-09-28T20:32:00.000-04:002007-09-28T20:32:00.000-04:00You call it.Something stinks in the ranks of the Q...You call it.<BR/><BR/>Something stinks in the ranks of the Quebec wing. And they want to destroy Dion and don't care about the Liberal Party.<BR/><BR/>Glad they work for us and not the Conservatives. If they did they might sabotage the Party.<BR/><BR/>Yup fire people who are discrediting the Liberal Party in the Media. Any corporation would fire the likes of Robert Fragasso. But Caroll publishing a book about the rivalry with Dion during Dion's leadership. This has made me question his abilities as an advisory.tdwebstehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12185860781518819759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-10561933669728622362007-09-28T20:18:00.000-04:002007-09-28T20:18:00.000-04:00You definitely call it.Something stinks in the Que...You definitely call it.<BR/><BR/>Something stinks in the Quebec wing. And they want to destroy Dion and don't give a shit about the Liberal Party.<BR/><BR/>Glad they are working for us and not the Conservatives???tdwebstehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12185860781518819759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-48273675733028853402007-09-28T19:59:00.000-04:002007-09-28T19:59:00.000-04:00Wilson "Iggy needs to be sent to the Ukraine to he...Wilson "Iggy needs to be sent to the Ukraine to help out Gerard, take Coderre with him."<BR/>Funny lol:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-41143390737184934232007-09-28T19:56:00.000-04:002007-09-28T19:56:00.000-04:00Iggy needs to be sent to the Ukraine to help out G...Iggy needs to be sent to the Ukraine to help out Gerard, take Coderre with him.<BR/><BR/>Dion needs to take the position, <BR/>'it's my party and I want a policy convention, a clear mandate, before going to the polls'...period. <BR/><BR/>Then the howling will stop.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-64194621363009411902007-09-28T19:43:00.000-04:002007-09-28T19:43:00.000-04:00People it looks like some Liberals are starting to...People it looks like some Liberals are starting to get cold <A HREF="http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics/story.html?id=54a6850b-c7b8-455c-ad89-2d6a7d9d7f2c&k=60728" REL="nofollow">feet</A><BR/>for a fall election according to Toronto-area MP Bryon Wilfert. Well who can blame them ?<BR/><BR/>Any comments to this anyone ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1202765723863964372007-09-28T19:38:00.000-04:002007-09-28T19:38:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-33849097982026817612007-09-28T17:02:00.000-04:002007-09-28T17:02:00.000-04:00Jeff, you probably want Tories commenting on this ...Jeff, you probably want Tories commenting on this like you want a bag on your hip (tm. <I>Reservoir Dogs</I>), but if I can pry my partisan hat off for a sec - you've pretty much hit it spot-on as to what needs to be done (even if I don't think/hope Dion'll do it...).<BR/><BR/>The really interesting thing would seem to be that for the first time that I can recall, you have relatively senior Liberal folks <B>not</B> calling up Jane Taber and calling themselves Mr. Source of Anonville, Ontario, but rather ID'ing themselves for the record. <BR/><BR/>It isn't necessarily fatal - as I recall, Harper had to put up with some similar commentary, albeit from mostly lower-ranking folks, back in '05 - but ask Stockwell Day how much fun it is when your in-house critics start using their real names.Jason Hickmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17648786726787793783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-62637241553450307842007-09-28T15:55:00.000-04:002007-09-28T15:55:00.000-04:00Brilliant post Jeff, and way more coherent then I ...Brilliant post Jeff, and way more coherent then I would have been given how pissed off I am. It's way past the time that Dion should have started to tell people to get in line or go away.A View From The Lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14329632758725485498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-6048258641260768702007-09-28T15:52:00.000-04:002007-09-28T15:52:00.000-04:00This is a bleak and depressing week. Somehow a by...This is a bleak and depressing week. Somehow a byelection, in which one seat was in contention, and a leak about committee seats have the entire Ottawa press corps thrashing around to find new Titanic metaphors. <BR/><BR/>As you said, and Cherniak said, it's tough to see this as a leadership issue when one considers the rational interests of anyone whatsoever. I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to favour an election if only because of the party unity, unanimity and united front vis a vis the press which it would engender.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand the consequences of that could be disasterous and I have no doubt that many in the press would immediately refashion the story as "Panicked Liberals trigger suicidal election in fit of nerves over some stupid byelection." The "clarity" created by an election may just be the temptation of greener pastures if it results in pre- and mid-election intrigue and posturing instead of "hang together or hang seperately" unity.Jason Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11991293325959283244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-5827772906902586312007-09-28T15:31:00.001-04:002007-09-28T15:31:00.001-04:00Dude, there is nothing to say except you're right,...Dude, there is nothing to say except you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Oh, and that word verification sucks.Jacques Beau Verthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450947780950412676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-25535751972692984472007-09-28T15:31:00.000-04:002007-09-28T15:31:00.000-04:00If Dion hasn't fought back already, does he have t...If Dion hasn't fought back already, does he have the cajones to be Liberal leader?Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17242849304383695542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1488691954876782272007-09-28T14:04:00.000-04:002007-09-28T14:04:00.000-04:00Good post, I have to agree.Good post, I have to agree.900ft Jesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882830831096870992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-81758380219930716392007-09-28T14:00:00.000-04:002007-09-28T14:00:00.000-04:00Good post.My recommendation: Fire Robert Fragasso ...Good post.<BR/><BR/>My recommendation: Fire Robert Fragasso on the grounds of going to the media with private information from a private meeting.<BR/><BR/>If this was a company this is what would happen.me dere roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03278802993888928030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-27027173026945254202007-09-28T13:56:00.000-04:002007-09-28T13:56:00.000-04:00I do not know what to think..is it all the grass r...I do not know what to think..is it all the grass roots of th Quebec Liberal party to blame, or someone else?<BR/> I do know it is a mistake for Dion to be appointing people, which I am sure Marc Garneau knew all about. I am a good Liberal, but this bothers me.Dion has to pull his socks up fast.A Eliz.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11088834823455226692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-19835101871790006902007-09-28T13:10:00.000-04:002007-09-28T13:10:00.000-04:00You called it. There's needs to be a forceful hand...You called it. There's needs to be a forceful hand telling these forces to get in line, face the music that the leader of the party is here and not going anywhere.<BR/>We're apparently not good at being in opposition. There are people among our ranks -- and it usually comes from Quebec, strangely enough -- that always want to call the shots. John Turner, Jean Chretien and Paul Martin have had wars to face in the backroom and in the shadows, but the most disgusting part is that many of these people prefer to muddy the water and take it out to the streets, as though fraticide makes them look good.<BR/>It's obvious that the CONs would/did do everything in their power to fuel this and, as witnessed on Steve-V's blog, are conspicuous in their silence, enjoying the fruits of their labour.<BR/>The enemy isn't us, but we can't beat the CONs and prevent a horribly regressive government staking a long claim to Sussex Drive if we don't stop fighting among ourselves.<BR/>Here's hoping that Dion can stamp this out and quickly, because the media love these kinds of feeding frenzies, ie. see Day, Stockwell.burlivespipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048415779214466831noreply@blogger.com