tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post7468957805617356426..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: The Conservative $2 million fake lake comedy round-upUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-70657876799889726432010-06-25T05:04:19.350-04:002010-06-25T05:04:19.350-04:00Could have been anything but a fake lake, the grea...Could have been anything but a fake lake, the greatest insult to Canada.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06533319771070403971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-80008664865395245182010-06-09T01:52:06.242-04:002010-06-09T01:52:06.242-04:00I'm surprised at the argument "we are try...I'm surprised at the argument "we are trying to encourage the media to cover the event" LOL and you are calling that "logic"? Obviously a word you use lightly, Andre.<br />Do you honestly believe if a fake lake were not build media would stay home??? It's the G-20 ... they would show up if it were help at a camp somewhere up north and they had to sleep in tents, which is closer to what SHOULD have been done. Easier to secure, FAR less public traffic to worry about or interfere with ... NO need to interrupt the regular business lives of hundreds of thousands of people. I see tons of logical benefit to hosting an event like this is in a smaller more remote location. This is all a bunch of empty hoopla ... not necessary ... not practical ... not feasible even! I can understand Harper doing it though ... he's trying to make a name for himself and just like when Mulroney tried to make a name for himself, we will pay for it for years to come.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00550662344840991887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-14114651440696032552010-06-08T21:33:17.001-04:002010-06-08T21:33:17.001-04:00Maybe they should have held the whole photo op ses...Maybe they should have held the whole photo op session (excuse me, the G8/20) in the West Edmonton Mall. It's huge and it already has a beach and doesn't need gazebos or new toilets!Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15641749905366773044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-50253368794628652442010-06-08T20:17:13.842-04:002010-06-08T20:17:13.842-04:00It's the cost of advertizing and now is the op...It's the cost of advertizing and now is the opportunity for that break away. <br />It's obvious that smoozing the media is a shoe in for good news headlines. Just look at the Liberals and the CBC. A few more glowing reports from The Economist, with a circulation of 1.6 million, and I'm guessing the lake story will be as stale as last months communion wafers.ridenrainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15238308195535796308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-17599637193846862332010-06-08T19:19:06.078-04:002010-06-08T19:19:06.078-04:00You seem to be all over the map, Andre, so forgive...You seem to be all over the map, Andre, so forgive me if I'm having trouble following you. You started by saying the fakelake brouhaha is opportunism, because we couldn't have all the media in Muskoka and it so the conference needed two locations and that entails costs. I asked what the logistical need for two locations, and the associated costs, had to do with building a fake lake in a conference centre. You replied with something about gold balls, and seemed to imply I think all the journalists should just stay home. Still unclear why journalists need a fake lake to cover the conference, I tried again with capitals. Now you're making an argument around marketing Canada, which I think is slightly more logical, but still offbase.<br /><br />Now, I get the need for two locations. Of course, you could say move the whole thing to Toronto to save costs, but that would piss of the Muskokas. Given the two-location model certain costs are going to be necessarily incurred. We can debate the initial decision to do it over two locations, but that's really secondary to the point of this post.<br /><br />My issue here...well, I have many, but this post is focused on one...is the fake lake, which it seems now is a $57,000 part of a wider $1.9 million expense that is not for the media centre, but is for the marketing pavilion that will include other fun fake things.<br /><br />You want to market Canada? Great. But I don't see how spending $57,000 on a fake lake does that. I think it's a hooky embarrassment, I think it will do nothing to meet the supposed goal of marketing Canada to anyone, and I think it's a huge waste of taxpayer dollars. Particularly given the already high cost of this event, and the country's fiscal state.<br /><br />That, using only necessary caps, is my point. The fake lake does nothing to market Canada. It does nothing to help the media do their jobs. It's am embarrassing waste of money.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-73160011579584544812010-06-08T19:09:12.606-04:002010-06-08T19:09:12.606-04:00I am not sure using all CAPs is going to be more e...I am not sure using all CAPs is going to be more effective on me than using logical argument is with you. <br /><br />Why BlackBerrys, why nice Roots bags, why give them anything at all? Unless you want to promote the country, goodwill, and give them a reason to come.<br /><br />You are promoting the country to the media to try and get them to come to the event. If they can not get close to the event, then why come at all? <br /><br />Why? Because, as a country we are trying to get them to come and cover the event. They are going to be colocated with the G20 event which is immediately subsequent to the G8. They can't get to the main tent. How do you get them to come to cover the G8 if they can't get anywhere close to it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-35626924450917227272010-06-08T18:58:24.926-04:002010-06-08T18:58:24.926-04:00WHY DO WE NEED A FAKE LAKE FOR THE MEDIA TO COVER ...WHY DO WE NEED A FAKE LAKE FOR THE MEDIA TO COVER THE CONFERENCE?<br /><br />(I thought I'd try using all caps to see if that helped you.)Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-85842565407278668472010-06-08T18:54:40.639-04:002010-06-08T18:54:40.639-04:00You know, the Liberals had it right with Cretien. ...You know, the Liberals had it right with Cretien. Golf balls are a much more effective to do this type of thing. Flags, too, way smarter.<br /><br />You are right. It would be much cheaper for us if all the journalists stayed home. Politicians too! Why are we trying to promote this country anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-29959346619992070492010-06-08T18:12:23.217-04:002010-06-08T18:12:23.217-04:00And so that, Andre, is why they needed to build a ...And so that, Andre, is why they needed to build a fake lake?Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-31543248537220832142010-06-08T17:26:00.152-04:002010-06-08T17:26:00.152-04:00This fake lake bruhaha is more than just a little ...This fake lake bruhaha is more than just a little opportunism. Muskoka is small and at capacity with the government delegates that are attending. Trying to add in 2000 delegates anywhere near the conference site would cost a lot more than keeping them in Toronto. Because of limited space, bringing 2000 more people would have meant bussing, meals and hotels for at least three days for the journalists. The gov would have had to pay the tab for that if they were going to limit traffic access to the site, as indeed they are doing. Quick calcuations on just those three elelments quickly surpasses $2M spent for hosting the event in Toronto. The alternative cost to hosting in Toronto is not zero, and is indeed more expensive, so more careful commentary is needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-1537206132222643652010-06-08T15:55:20.212-04:002010-06-08T15:55:20.212-04:00If it makes the other G20 nations envious, so much...If it makes the other G20 nations envious, so much the better. A big, flashy production after the success of the Olympics is just what we need to put Canada on top of the next decade.ridenrainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15238308195535796308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-252075691820138082010-06-08T14:30:13.604-04:002010-06-08T14:30:13.604-04:00And according to CTV's Roger Smith, documents ...And according to CTV's Roger Smith, documents show the true cost is $500,000. But then you'll defend anything the Cons do, Ezra, so it makes no difference.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-82177488972525383302010-06-08T13:55:34.640-04:002010-06-08T13:55:34.640-04:00Gee, coming from Ezra Levant's poorer third co...Gee, coming from Ezra Levant's poorer third cousin, I'll really take that advice to heart.<br /><br />But but but...it'd only a $57,000 fake lake?!?!<br /><br />That's the funniest one yet.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-58600178740346893162010-06-08T13:47:52.108-04:002010-06-08T13:47:52.108-04:00The “fake lake” cost $57k, not $1.9 million as rep...The “fake lake” cost $57k, not $1.9 million as reported yesterday.<br /><br />When you going to devote your time to more worthwhile pursuits Jedras? I'm pretty sure being a poor man's Warren Kinsella isn't your calling in life.McLeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09165834242136713347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-22876017227184724222010-06-08T11:43:02.083-04:002010-06-08T11:43:02.083-04:00I made a fake Tom Thomson of FakeLake! http://ow.l...I made a fake Tom Thomson of FakeLake! http://ow.ly/i/1XZm#8cCTeacher Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264877501277483113noreply@blogger.com