tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post7668525027881267634..comments2024-02-07T16:22:39.625-05:00Comments on Jeff Jedras: What else? The Dion/May thingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-18469011700388440052007-04-16T19:24:00.000-04:002007-04-16T19:24:00.000-04:00BC'er,refuse to sign everyone?On condition they th...BC'er,<BR/><BR/>refuse to sign everyone?<BR/><BR/>On condition they they are Liberal?<BR/><BR/>That interpretation, my good man, would be a direct violation of all of those other sections,<BR/><BR/>and that just covers who he can exclude.<BR/><BR/>He MUST run a Liberal in every riding.<BR/><BR/>Sorry,<BR/><BR/>Dion's in violation.<BR/><BR/>I love how Liberals are fighting for an interpretation of their constitution which allows for ANOTHER PARTY to supercede the Liberals.<BR/><BR/>I just love it.<BR/><BR/>We have entered bizarro world.<BR/><BR/>The only world one could be in when defending Dion's actions.biffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15340193920437478023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-20284087894457243542007-04-15T16:45:00.000-04:002007-04-15T16:45:00.000-04:00Well I'm not a lawyer Biff, or a constitutional sc...Well I'm not a lawyer Biff, or a constitutional scholar. Not sure if you are either. But I think before you finalize your brief, there's one more pertinent section of the LPC constitution you might want to consider: the part that says the leader has final approval on all candidates, and can refuse to sign their nomination papers if he choses.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14971310821484459106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-63842850437311563862007-04-14T21:53:00.000-04:002007-04-14T21:53:00.000-04:00Dion is in violation of the Lib Constitution, both...Dion is in violation of the Lib Constitution, <BR/><BR/>both in the spirit, and the letter, the relevant portions:<BR/><BR/>"2 Purposes<BR/><BR/>(1) The fundamental purposes of the Party are:<BR/>(a) to participate in the public affairs of Canada by endorsing members of the Party as candidates of the Party for election to the House of Commons and supporting their election;<BR/><BR/>10 Rights of members<BR/><BR/>(3) Subject to Chapter 12, a member of the Party has the right to seek to be a candidate of the Party for election to the House of<BR/>Commons.<BR/><BR/>Chapter 15 – Candidate selection meetings<BR/>58 Purpose<BR/>Each EDA must hold a candidate selection meeting to select a candidate of the Party for election to the House of Commons at the time specified by, and in accordance with, the rules made by the National Election Readiness Committee under Section 60."<BR/><BR/>- Purpose of the party is to endorse party members as candidates: violation (that's a biggie as it goes to the root of the party, which is obviously not to elect other party members),<BR/><BR/>- Each member has a right to seek to be a member: violation, in the NS riding EVERYONE is prohibited<BR/><BR/>- Each riding MUST select a candidate to run for parliament: violation.<BR/><BR/>Dion is explicitly violating his own party's constitution.biffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15340193920437478023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-62898056361237633152007-04-14T17:22:00.000-04:002007-04-14T17:22:00.000-04:00gasp, "backroom deals"!!! right on national telev...gasp, "backroom deals"!!! right on national television, in front of the cameras, how sinister!!!<BR/><BR/>oh, and biff, there were many times when the libs had a token candidate lose, like when we let joe clark take calgary center.canuckistanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00224304919198435405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-22103010258730686752007-04-14T16:06:00.000-04:002007-04-14T16:06:00.000-04:00I was wondering about those anonymous quotes in th...I was wondering about those anonymous quotes in the media. These Liberal mucky mucks should have the backbone to speak out in the open or shut up...in my opinion.Woman at Mile 0https://www.blogger.com/profile/02007966021603937917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-78491250438577210062007-04-14T15:39:00.000-04:002007-04-14T15:39:00.000-04:00biff two words: google search.had you be so inclin...biff two words: google search.<BR/><BR/>had you be so inclined to do one you would have found that there were two times in the LPCs history where they didn't run a candidate in order for progressive candidates to win over Conservative ones.A View From The Lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14329632758725485498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-69901719134343270852007-04-14T14:40:00.000-04:002007-04-14T14:40:00.000-04:00Monty had some weak spin there. You think they wo...Monty had some weak spin there. You think they would counter chatting more about the backroom deals and such.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, everyone seems up in arms about it today, but it'll be interesting to see how this plays down the road. It seems the media is trying to spin it as a bad move, which isn't as good.UWHabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04040081354928054972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-71800016028958927102007-04-14T13:51:00.000-04:002007-04-14T13:51:00.000-04:00I don't recall the conservatives ever putting fort...I don't recall the conservatives ever putting forth seperatist legislation.<BR/><BR/>I do recall the bloc voting for conservatives legislation, just as the liberals have, and just as the bloc did with Liberals.<BR/><BR/>The defense for Dion played in that article was pathetic.<BR/><BR/>No, there's a bit of a difference in another party voting for your legislation which happens, oh, I dunno, nearly every time a bill is passed,<BR/><BR/>and ceding a seat to another party which has never happened before in the LPC's history and for good reason.<BR/><BR/>The fact that dishonest analogies have to be used only under underscores how shaky the ground is beneath Dion right now.biffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15340193920437478023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-33336085765996275512007-04-14T13:20:00.000-04:002007-04-14T13:20:00.000-04:00Well, PK - they do not seem to be too concerned ab...Well, PK - they do not seem to be too concerned about the fact their current MP comes from a party with a member who believes Nelson Mandella is a terrorist, and a party who wanted to send Canada to war in Iraq, so I do not think this will impact them either.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-35253108666541793292007-04-14T13:16:00.000-04:002007-04-14T13:16:00.000-04:00I wonder what the people in Central Nova will thin...I wonder what the people in Central Nova will think about voting for a party who has a member who pumped their fist in glee when the Twin Towers fell? And the Liberals got in bed with a party that supports these views?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-22073230124578372612007-04-14T12:44:00.000-04:002007-04-14T12:44:00.000-04:00Both the NdPer and CON talking puppets have been g...Both the NdPer and CON talking puppets have been going on and on about 'back-room deal' between Dion and May... That Dion has burned the grassroots.<BR/>Hmm, taking those 2 apart shouldn't be too tough. Backroom deal, like the one Laytun made with Harpor in fall '05, that saw items like Kelowna Accord, national childcare, and committment to Kyoto killed? How has that backroom deal worked out for you, Jack, and the progressives you supposedly are working for? Backroom deal, Tories? Like the one you made with the Bloc to 'get things done for Quebec'? Sure, that's not necessarily an anti-Canadian thing, but when you pickpocket Peter to payoff Pierre, what are the farmers in Winnipeg and PEI to think?<BR/>Grassroots, yeh, Harpor knows all about them. He's essentially disenfranchised riding after riding with his secret deals, buying off candidates etc. He stiff armed long-time Cons who wanted to run to be the candidate to allow special candidates to run. And then when their candidates are elected? Can you say silent treatment -- because we know all words and winks can only come with PMO approval.<BR/>Had to laugh when Soleberg hinted at the Green candidate's viewpoint on 9-11, how now Dion must be endorsing that. So Monty, are we greenlighting the right to dig into every party's candidate's words in the past.burlivespipehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048415779214466831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-86120580347167330092007-04-14T12:36:00.000-04:002007-04-14T12:36:00.000-04:00I'm pretty confident that voters in Central Nova w...I'm pretty confident that voters in Central Nova will know that Dion is supporting May.Jason Cherniakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473304114206630747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19402125.post-63366785462432598232007-04-14T12:13:00.000-04:002007-04-14T12:13:00.000-04:00How do you think voters think? I bet it's somethi...How do you think voters think? I bet it's something like this:<BR/><BR/>When an election is called they pay attention to a few things like commercials, a few prominent news stories, and maybe the debates, but most cannot name the candidates in their own riding. They make up their mind mainly on a few new things and their voting pattern in the past. Come voting day they head to the polling station and look for the party symbol on the ballot.<BR/><BR/>OOOPS, there's no Liberal on that ballot. Now who do I vote for?? <BR/><BR/>Do you really think the average Joe voter is going to be keeping track of all the little backroom deals you guys make ad vote the "right" way, or do you think maybe he'll have to go with some second choice, on the spot? Gee there sure were a lot of Conservative commercials on TV . . .The Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762317244980526077noreply@blogger.com