EDITED HANSARD • NUMBER 022
CONTENTS
Thursday, November 4, 2004
Hon. Stephen Harper (Leader of the Opposition, CPC) moved:
That this House deplore the attitude of the Prime Minister of Canada at and following the First Ministers' Conference of October 26, 2004, and that it call on the federal government to immediately implement its pledges of June 5 and 27, 2004, to allow the provinces of Newfoundland and Labrador, and Nova Scotia to keep 100% of their provincial offshore oil and gas revenues.
He said: Mr. Speaker,I will be splitting my time with our deputy leader from Central Nova.
On June 5 of this year the Prime Minister arrived in
This is a commitment that was made by me in my capacity as leader of the Canadian Alliance when I first arrived here and has its origins in the intentions of the Atlantic accord signed by former Prime Minister Mulroney in the mid-1980s. These are longstanding commitments, our commitment to 100% of non-renewable resource royalties. It was our commitment during the election, before the election, and it remains our commitment today.
For the Prime Minister, this was something that he had opposed for 11 years and for most of his political career. But suddenly in the midst of an election campaign on June 5, he met with
"I believe that
Premier Williams specified in a letter dated June 10 that:
'The proposal my government made to you and your Minister of Natural Resources provides for 100% of direct provincial revenues generated by the petroleum resources in the Newfoundland and Labrador Offshore Area, to accrue to the government of Newfoundland and Labrador and be sheltered from the clawback provisions of the equalization formula--'
The Prime Minister said he agreed with the Premier's proposal and he gave his word as Prime Minister of Canada. Premier Williams was asked at the press conference announcing the deal how he could be sure the Prime Minister would keep his word after the election. He replied that as a man of honour, that the solemn word of the Prime Minister was sufficient. Premier Williams said: “It's by word of mouth, and I'm taking him at his word, and that's good enough for me”.
Unfortunately, the solemn word of this Prime Minister turned out to be not good enough. The Prime Minister ignored letters from Premier Williams on June 10, August 5 and August 24 urging him to confirm his promise. Suddenly, the Prime Minister and his Minister of Natural Resources fell silent.
Finally, on October 24, two days before the first ministers' conference, the Minister of Finance finally replied offering:
--additional annual payments that will ensure the province effectively retains 100 per cent of its offshore revenues--
Then the minister added two big exceptions limiting the offer:
--for an eight-year period covering 2004-05 through 2011-12, subject to the provision that no such additional payments result in the fiscal capacity of the province exceeding that of the province of Ontario in any given year.
The eight year time limit and the
Why should
The
Hon. Stephen Harper (Calgary Southwest, CPC): Everyone in
The Liberal attitude is as typical as it is senseless. There is no point pulling back non-renewable resource revenues from a have not province. This is an opportunity and it is a one time opportunity. It is a short term opportunity to allow these provinces to kick-start their economic development, to get out of have not status, to grow this short run opportunity into long run growth and revenue that will be paid back to Ottawa over and over again and that will benefit the people of those regions of Canada for a very long time.
This is what happened in the case of my
Of course the Liberals expended endless effort to limit the growth of
The Prime Minister, before he was here, was president of a company that largely depended on offshore activity. Does he not understand that energy resources are finite, temporary and a short term opportunity? The provinces of Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia should be allowed, indeed should be encouraged, to improve the living conditions of their citizens and to use this to attract new long term businesses to replace the temporary opportunities provided by the offshore resources.
Instead, when the
Whether we live in
What is at stake is the future of Atlantic Canada, an unprecedented and historic opportunity for those provinces to get out of the have not status that has bedevilled them for decades. What is at issue is very simple. It is the honour of the Prime Minister, and all he has to do is keep his word.
Tuesday, June 12, 2007
Decivin' Steven on the Atlantic Accord, circa 2004
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Using his own words against him is hardly fair. Don't you know you are supposed to simply take him at his word?
Here is my favourite line:
"What is at issue is very simple. It is the honour of the Prime Minister, and all he has to do is keep his word."
Here is my favorite line:
"It is not to negotiate. The Prime Minister gave his word. The terms of his proposal were clear. Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia requested and were promised 100% of their offshore revenues without equalization clawback, period. There is nothing to negotiate."
Nice. Somebody should keep a running tally of Tory hypocrisy in a central location- a compendium of lies, distortions and half-truths.
Graeme, check out harperindex.ca
Jeff:
Off topic.
I opened your site and received a warning message from my anti-virus software. Wondering if it was your site or something else I backed out of your blog and re-accesses it. I received the same warning again.
I do not know what the significance of that is but it has not been triggered by any other blog-site that I accessed this evening.
Just a heads up.
I have no comprehension of how you have the patience to dig through Hansard like this, but I'm glad you do.
(I find it so difficult to navigate. Maybe it's me, but it doesn't seem to do simple searches.)
Anyway, well done.
crabgrass, thx! I lost my link and have been looking for that site.
Thanks for the support. It is nice to know there are still some canadian values left out there amongst the masses of ignorants.
I posted your blog with a few comments on mine. Hope thats ok.
I'll admit I have a limited understanding of this but I have a question:
The Ontario clause is unfair and insulting to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador, and its message to that province, to Nova Scotia and to all of Atlantic Canada is absolutely clear. They can only get what they were promised if they agree to remain have not provinces forever. That is absolutely unacceptable.
Why would Ontario still send equalization payments, if Atlantic Canada is better off in any given year? Especially since Ontario's economy seems to be heading for trouble.
Certainly lots of favourite lines to choose from there.
Ottlib thanks for the heads-up. I'm not sure what's up with that, it's hosted of course by blogger and I haven't added anything to the template recently. I'm not sure what that could be, but please let me know if it persists and dido if it happens for anyone else.
Knb, I can't take credit, a friend dug this up. I agree though the Hansard Web site search engine is a pain.
Kevin, I'm no expert on all this but in a nutshell, I think the idea behind the accord is that have-not provinces that are now getting (temporary) booms from resource revenue shouldn't have their equalization clawed back, at least right away. Rather, as the resource revenue is temporary, they should have both for a transitional period to help them build a more sustainable economy, so they can become a more stable have province, even once the resource boom has passed.
Certainly there's an element of unfairness there for BC, Alberta and Ontario. But it's a case of big picture thinking, that sustainable economies in Sask, and that NF and NS are in the interests of all the provinces.
"Certainly there's an element of unfairness there for BC, Alberta and Ontario. But it's a case of big picture thinking, that sustainable economies in Sask, and that NF and NS are in the interests of all the provinces."
Maybe I am just too idealistic, but the way I see it we are all the same country. Why should we in Alberta be able to hoard our revenues, while other provinces starve? Seems to me what constitutes a "Have" and a "Have not" province changes with the economy and with time.
(I know, I know, that pesky division of powers thing...)
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